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Your comment misrepresents both history and the nature of the current conflict. Equating Judaism with the modern state of Israel is intellectually dishonest. Israel is a 20th-century colonial project founded by a secular nationalist movement, not by religious Jews following the Torah. In fact, many prominent orthodox Jewish communities have long opposed Zionism, stating clearly that the Torah forbids the establishment of a Jewish state before the arrival of the Messiah.Christianity has only been around for 2000 years. Islam, which Palestine practices, only 1400. Judaism, Israel, has been around since approximately 1800 BCE/BC. Judaism is the oldest monotheistic religion. Now, the oldest religions are Hinduism, Greek/Roman, and Norse. Norse paganism has been around for roughly 4323 years. So, if you want to get technical, your hatred of Zionists and Israels hatred of Palestine, are blind obedience to altered doctrine. Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, if you look at their history, have always punished people for not conforming to their religion. Christians used to hang/burn/crush/drown people for not being Christian.
A prime example is the Christian King the Vikings dubbed as Olaf the Fat. He would torture any vikings who would not convert.
Judaism. They would stone those not of their religion. Muslims did too. Now, if you look at Israel/Palestine conflict, it's two religions who don't want to convert to the other. They don't fight to survive, they fight because of hate. Something both religions, quite ironically, say you should not have hate.
Vikings only fought/stole/killed to survive in the harsh North. Romans and Greeks fought to show strength. Islam and Judaism? They fight because of hate.
Actually, Islam, Judaism, and Christian have always been full of hate. It's not an accusation. There's groups of Christians who hate anyone not Christian. The Jews tolerate certain religions but hate being told their religion is not the first one. And Islam, you have the extremists who absolutely hate anyone not Muslim. And do you not realize what Israel and Palestine are actually fighting for or just what the media depicts? Because they been in conflicts for years. And it's always been the same thing, who is the actual inhabitants of the "holy land"? Which going by history would mean ultimately it's the Jews. Only because they are the oldest of the two. But Islam was also ultimately founded in the middle East where as Judaism migrated there. So it's really Jews are upset that a group broke off of their main group and created their own religion. Again, the Jews don't like older religions but will tolerate Christians. Non Muslims don't like Islam because of the extremists. Solution? Rid the world of the ones of Islam and Judaism who are too extreme and those who think their religion is superiorYour comment misrepresents both history and the nature of the current conflict. Equating Judaism with the modern state of Israel is intellectually dishonest. Israel is a 20th-century colonial project founded by a secular nationalist movement, not by religious Jews following the Torah. In fact, many prominent orthodox Jewish communities have long opposed Zionism, stating clearly that the Torah forbids the establishment of a Jewish state before the arrival of the Messiah.
Claiming that Islam punishes people simply for being of other faiths is false. The Quran explicitly prohibits compulsion in religion. Historically, Muslims granted religious freedoms to Jews and Christians as “People of the Book.” Under Muslim rule in Spain, Jews experienced a golden age of cultural and intellectual prosperity. By contrast, Christian Europe conducted inquisitions, burned people alive for heresy, and expelled or exterminated religious minorities. If you are concerned about religious violence, the crimes committed in the name of Christianity over centuries vastly outweigh anything you're accusing others of.
Your defense of Norse and Roman violence as being about “survival” or “strength” while labeling Jewish and Muslim conflicts as driven by “hate” is absurd and bigoted. Romans and Vikings were imperial conquerors who enslaved and exterminated populations. Today’s Palestinians are resisting an illegal occupation and decades of forced displacement. That is not hatred; it is self-defense—recognized under international law.
Framing this as a religious dispute is a common tactic used to deflect from the reality: this is a political, settler-colonial conflict involving one group backed by a nuclear-armed state and global superpowers and another denied basic rights, sovereignty, and even food and medicine.
Pretending to be neutral while echoing Zionist talking points and whitewashing Israeli crimes is not neutrality—it is complicity. This isn't a conflict of faiths; it's a struggle between oppressor and oppressed. Your distorted history and feigned objectivity only help sustain occupation and genocide.
Ethan Klein is Wrong About Israeli Society
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This video clearly exposes the true nature of modern Israeli society: not a democracy as claimed, but a settler-colonial state built on ethnic extremism, systematic incitement, and widespread public support for the genocide of Palestinians.
Attempts by some here to drag the conversation into religious disputes or distorted historical comparisons are nothing but distractions—desperate efforts to deflect attention from documented daily war crimes and crimes against humanity.
When logic fails, the fallback strategy is familiar: selective historical narratives, twisted accusations of “hate,” and the weaponization of false victimhood while actual ethnic cleansing unfolds on the ground with international cover.
This video shows that even within Israeli society, voices opposing genocide are silenced and demonized, proving that the issue is not just an extremist government—it’s a structural colonial system supported by media, military, and a radicalized public.
Occupation is not a political opinion. Justifying it in any form is a moral collapse—and a betrayal of humanity.